The major problem I see is that most people emphasize the emotional aspect of worship. No, He isnt. (e.g. He knit you together, knowing you before you were born, His masterpiece. That we would become more sensitive to Gods presence that exists everywhere, including the Holy Spirit indwelling within us. And keep you The epistle of 1 Peter is addressed to "pilgrims" ( 1 Peter 1:1 )Christians who had been called out of the world to be set apart as God's special . Thus said, thank you & your site is indeed a Blessing, though I do think one should not totally remove other areas of concern such as the music style & directed Doctrine. The scope of The Berean Test is to analyze lyrics for its message, Biblical accuracy, outsider interpretation, or inherent glorification of God (or lack thereof) based on my evaluation criteria. Does He restore their soul? That doesnt mean you have to pay for it! And in Luke 23:39-43, one of the criminals crucified with Christ Jesus begged Jesus to remember him in heaven. I acknowledge that some songs served up to the body might be better applied in a private, personal time of worship but at the same time the church needs to grow not in endurance but true passion and devotion. Hi, I am new to your sight, and I first would like to say thank you for doing this work. Weeping may tarry for the night, but joy comes with the morning." The psalmist appears to be writing about the loving discipline of God. Praise is all that is on my mind during this. Of course not! The repetition of the phrase He is for you has caused me to understand, with new clarity, what i thought i knew. Our humanness is so fickle and petty. Psalm 5:12 For you bless the righteous, O Lord; you cover him with favor as with a shield. He can bless them with good health, happiness, safety, opportunities to witness, care for others. Your stated principle references 1 Thessalonians 5:22. I do appreciate the work put in to note all those Scripture passages! The song doesnt claim anything for Americans but seems to me to be a prayer of blessing over those listening. Talk about sentimentality. It is a series of blessings offered to those who listen, containing several elements: Side Note: This song relies heavily on repetition: All the blessings contained in this song are either directly quoted from Scripture or inspired by it. Know therefore that the Lord thy God, He is God, the faithful God, who keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love Him and keep His commandments to a thousand generations, ASV. Yes, they used scripture to write the song. I agree about the excessive repetition, although I think ones response to that can change with age, with younger people often wanting a more emotional, intense encounter and those who are a bit older wanting more actual content. I was struggling in sin and when I heard this song it called me back to obedience to God, because it reminded me that even though my sin is abominable, He has called me (and everyone else) to repentance through grace, forgiveness and love in His own life by leading the way in action. May His favor be upon you And a thousand generations And your family and your children And their children, and their children "May God be gracious to us and bless us and make his face shine on us so that your ways may be known on earth, your salvation among all nations. It also gives recourse to the author through the court system to stop misuse and to impose a penalty on those who refuse to comply with the authors limits on the use of his/her work. Thank you! * Songs that are almost like God talking to us or how he feels about us are either in the 3rd or 4th category those ones are tricky. It is totally fine that someone gets super irritated by repetition. Ive come on this site for the first time thank you for helpful comments. G#m. It is hard for me to write here because motive is always being assumed as bad by critics. I understand your point. Wow! And your family and your children. May His favor be upon you And a thousand generations And your family and your children And their children, and their children May His presence go before you And behind you, and beside you All around you, and within you He is with you, He is with you In the morning, in the evening In your coming, and your going In your weeping, and rejoicing In terms of corporate worship, I see your point. Personally, my biggest issue with this song is that they turned a 2 minute song into a 12 minute song, and I feel like Im getting tired of getting blessed by the time its over..(kind of like this comment, lol). Vie Motivation. Well, Im late and maybe someone else could put this in a more biblically referenced context, but Id just add that as human beings, we should constantly be reminding ourselves that questions of reasoning, that is, human reasoning like, if God is all knowing, why does God need to be reminded? are concluded from leaning on our own understanding. 2) I also disagree with the statement that God is against THEM (emphasis mine.) Paul made a point of saying that we as gentiles are adopted into the family of God, and into the Abrahamic lineage (Rom 8:14-17, Gal 3:27-29). Remember me, O my God, concerning this, and wipe not out my good deeds that I have done for the house of my God, and for the offices thereof. Let's peek into the the definition of humble. The song makes it seem like WE can somehow make His face shine upon us. They are meant to be outwardly focused on Him and though the Bible is filled with promises and blessings for us I feel worship should be reserved to worship Him and show our reverence for Him. Everything has to be explained, emotions are suspect, bad theology isBad. But honestly, I know few who have good theology. God's blessings will overtake you. Psalm 30:5 (NIV) "For his anger lasts only a moment, but his favor lasts a lifetime; weeping may stay for the night, but rejoicing comes in the morning.". When Jesus died on the cross, he ended the need for Temple worship (hence, the curtain was torn). Agree? A favourite sport of satan is keeping Christians so busy and occupied with abundancies, over indulgences, nicky nacky noos stuff, that the the truth or real value items becomes muddied and lost between the its still ok, but Christians WILL do better without things of life. [21] I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied. I think part of the lyrics in Bridge 2 are taken from or allude to St. Patricks prayer. Psalm 27:4 One thing have I desired of the LORD, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the LORD, and to inquire in his temple. 1. Most people find this site by doing a Google search. "And if you faithfully obey the voice of the Lord your God, being careful to do all his commandments that I command you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth. As the Church, we of course desire the Lord to bless us and for His Face to shine upon us. I think this has been to the detriment of the world today and especially the church. Nope. And behind you, and beside you It was co-written by Steven Furtick and Chris Brown (Elevation Worship). Day and night THEY NEVER stop saying: Holy, holy, holy My score heavily relied on this point, so for that reason, I can significantly adjust it. Naaman, leader of the Syrian army and pagan, for example, was healed of leprosy by God. Thank you for your comment! Ephesians 4:29. 43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. O LORD, thou knowest: remember me, and visit me, and revenge me of my persecutors; take me not away in thy longsuffering: know that for thy sake I have suffered rebuke. Of course, He also made a way for His enemies to be forgiven. That being said. You can tell that Kari Jobe is just blown away with how well the song is being received. First, Psalm 23 starts with The LORD is my shepherd. Additionally, I find that repetition is the key to effectual learning. And each and every time i listen to it. In the modern era, the idea has crept into the church that everything we do has to be seeker oriented. I just want to make sure that it is Scriptural. This songs (like you said) main focus is blessings on believers- but that means its for believers not for God. After much prayer and consideration, I updated my review borrowing from Brennans wisdom. God remembered Rachel, then opened her womb. The Lord bless you And keep you Make His face shine upon you And be gracious to you The Lord turn His Face toward you And give you peace. Is this different from passing the peace, which I consider another time stealer, especially when this action is done before the confession, as is the situation in many protestant churches, which no longer have a prayer of confession. Of course, this might be best done when in private worship, but it could be done corporately as well. it might sound like just as a sentence Worship must be vital and real in the heart, and worship must rest on a true perception of God. And be gracious to. We somehow start to believe that it all depends on "us." If anything, it is useful in church at the end, to bless the congregation. While its Biblically accurate it is neither a song of praise nor worship because its focus is on us and not on God. We should not forget He has told us He is a jealous God jealous for us desires a relationship with each and every one of us and when we remind Him, He knows that we are thinking about that relationship, that we remember how important it is to us, that we are resetting it above our recent previous thoughts and actions, and that we love Him. Thank you for your comments and welcome to The Berean Test! I hope its supporting you well for your time and if not Im sure God will fix the tab on the other side . The repeated phrases is what we need to hear for that truth to penetrate our mind & heart! " This Scripture emphasizes the importance of valuing and managing . This is worship ministering to God. He is for you, He is for you Youve probably heard of YouTube, Pandora, and Spotify. The song is simple..anyone can sing it and give glory to God as they do. Great question! May His favor be upon you And a thousand generations And your family and your children And their children and their children May His presence go before you And behind you and beside you All around you and within you He is with you He is with you In the morning in the evening In your coming and your going In your weeping and rejoicing He is for you That we would understand God is for us no matter the time of day, location, or personal scenario. I understand it might not fit nicely into a church service but if the point is to glorify God, as your review seems concerned with, then I dont think being repetitive is something Hes concerned with. I have listened to this song at least a dozen times, all 12 minutes of it, and I have wept every time. Since the loss of my children it has been singing in worship The Blessing. I broke down, surrounded by people, who helped me finally grieve. But to be sung by everyone in a time where it is thought that were bringing glory to God I believe it is out of its proper context. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. So I have had a hard time with this song from the beginning. If we embrace the blessings of Moses-era Israel, we can expect to miss out on the blessings of Christjoining Him in His suffering. "Jesus Loves Me" by Willam B. Bradbury Jesus loves me! It offers a blessing inspired by Scripture that unbelievers can easily comprehend and brings glory to God. Where can I find these lyrics in Scripture in the bible? I would add one thing: Under the new covenant, we, the church, are a holy priesthood (1 Peter 2:4-10). Promise. I like your helpful analysis, particularly your explanation of how The Blessing links to scripture. Could I submit that though I really like this song and can take it personally as a believer, after reading through the lyrics, I didnt see that the artists mentioned anywhere who the recipients of these blessings are? Thus the repetition of the blessings as well as the amens. God is merciful and kind. For instance, Psalm 67:1-2 says: "May God be gracious to us and bless us and make his face to shine upon us, that your way may be known upon earth, your saving power among all nations.". Listen: DISCERN IN-DEPTH, SELECTING THE ESSENTIAL WORTHWHILE ONES & DISCARDING THE ABUNDANT EXCESS. 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever. He is for you, He is for you. I believe it is unwise to make any sweeping judgement regarding what God can or cant do through the Holy Spirit in peoples hearts through a song through any song. Key Verse ~ God's blessings will chase you down! We have a staff member, who will break into tongues and sobs uncontrollably when they play that song. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. It is our job to proclaim Gods word and it is the Holy Spirits job to give understanding, faith, and discernment to those who God calls. is the Lord God Almighty,[a] However I accept that it is their way of getting my attention.. Vince, Im sorry, I dont mean to go on and rant or even sound angry but the gospel of greed is a real problem here in the USA and apparently Im not sure what can be done about it you asked me how far my argument goes I think it started and ended here things like this bother me and because Jesus didnt charge me a dime when he loved and saved instead he paid the price..but anyway this turning into word salad and I know you got better things to do so let me end with this.. You quoted Romans 13, I agree, you are 100 percent right!! In effect, there are two ways to pay for operating expenses: charge tickets or ask for donations. Much of the focus of 1 Peter is on how Christians should conduct themselves during unjust persecution. It is unfortunate to consider but I would venture to guess that a large majority of the songs audience falsely believe the blessings promised by this song are material or emotional blessings simply because that is the current focus of society and the most popular reason many seek God. Within the context of the whole Word of God we know what it means to follow God and to dwell in His house but if we stick to Psalm 23 only and alone, these concepts are not explained. Key Bible Verses: Isaiah 41:10, NIV So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. Isaiah 41:13, NIV For I am the LORD your God who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, Do not fear; I will . This is my reaction too it brings me to tears. We are each responsible to God for ourselves, not others. God isnt really concerned if our theology is correct. May the LORD show you his favor and give you his peace. How do I respond to this? Psalm 30:5 "For his anger is but for a moment, and his favor is for a lifetime. Face toward you a high score does not necessarily endorse the theology of said artist. Thank you for your comments and question! Out of context is intentional. 3:3. For example, the book of Romans was for the Christians in Rome exclusively, thus it is not for modern day Christians and the books of Luke and Acts are for Theophilus, not for modern Christians, etc. Why do we support these business organizations (to not be too harsh)??? Do I believe that God forgets? On that note, I think Dave Brennan makes a valid point on the added repeated phrase and I might suggest unqualified words He is with you. I will paste a portion of the article below and wait for your comments. To resolve conflicts biblically, people must air complaints to the proper authorities. [17] They say still unto them that despise me, The LORD hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you. Something Beautiful Today's Scripture: And there is none that calleth upon thy name,that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee:for thou hast hid thy face Perhaps its because we arent trying to sell them as our own work? 25 May the Lord smile on you and be gracious to you. But we dont do that we naturally gravitate toward adoration in our song writing and corporate singing, without direct biblical instruction to do so. IF (big if) the song is being sung AS worship THEN it is actually idolatry, because it is worship of the congregation, the blessing, your children, and their children and their children. Stephen, I couldnt agree more! The issue lies within its use. How would an outsider interpret the song And here I feel you got it wrong. I pray that God in the later days will give people discernment to know the difference between what is right and almost right! May His favor be upon you And a thousand generations And your family and your children And their children and their . Well said! All around you, and within you The last part was very hard. Slog? The near endless repetition of it all almost ruins it as far as the musical aspect. In the New Testament, the Greek word is mimnskomai, meaning to remember or recall, but it too seems to imply action. And keep you The repetition is worship; I sense Gods heavy Presence, love and blessing more and more, the longer it goes on. The songs title summarizes the entire song. Theres a preacher who comes to our church on occasion and even before this song came out he would sing Nu. [18] For who hath stood in the counsel of the LORD, and hath perceived and heard his word? We dont leave our homes or camps for a week to purify ourselves, nor do we need a priest to call us clean. Combines the omnipresence of God (1 Kings 8:27, Psalm 139:7-12, Proverbs 15:3, Jeremiah 23:23-24, Colossians 1:17, and Hebrews 4:13) with the Holy Spirit who lives inside believers (Acts 6:5, Romans 8:9-11, 1 Corinthians 3:16, 1 Corinthians 6:16-19, Galatians 4:6, Ephesians 5:18, and 2 Timothy 1:14) into a blessing. If we are going to accept the Bible we have to assume that all of the bible is relevant. How many times did God say fear not, and yet we are fearful of so much in this world. But, if they dont copyright it, someone else might and do whatever they want with it. "These are the words of the . I am not normally in favor of gross repetition in worship songs, but in this case it absolutely works. The current generation is emotionally starved in history. May His presence go before you. Yet, if I were a betting man (and Im usually not), Id wager that the Me that you see before you and the Me in heaven, with my spiritual body, would be like night and day. and those who see it as a blessing, reinforcement, and helpful. The emphasis and focus of all these cults is Prosperity and comfort your best life now.. and we all know that the Bible teaches that our best life is not here on this planet. saith the LORD of hosts. Chris Brown) What I See, Elevation Worship (Feat. I am not a skilled songwriter or gifted musician, but I heard this worship song for the first time as I was driving across the state to a wedding shower for my eldest sons fianc. I realize this was an emotional reaction to the song, but this is still significant. Guessing from the ads, its voluntary work. Try Bible Gateway Plus free today! Although the song is scriptural, it relies heavily on repetition that in my context elicits a cultural animistic mystical response. God be merciful unto us, and bless us; and cause his face to shine upon us; Selah. I have never been able to understand the fear that some Christians have for the emotional side of the human experience. What do we use listening & informal participation within Christian songs/performances for?, as PART of worship right. Be blessed Vince and thank you for letting reply. I cant find anyone aside from me struggling with it in my spirit as much as I am. TastyWallet made me smile! Okay, so thats not Aaron and his sons, which means either no-one now can say it or sing it OR perhaps all believers can sing it to/over each other and over their families etc. May His favor be upon you And a thousand generations Your family and your children And their children, and their children. It seems therefore it should only be pronounced to the church [to those who are in Christ by faith (1Pet 2:9/ Rev 1:5-6)] and probably best after a reminder of the gospel the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ for our sin. Just the fact that its from Elevation tells me that I dont want anything to do with it. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; I think its great and definitely a nice song. LORD -- the proper name of the God of Israel, Noun - common plural construct | third person masculine singular, Verb - Hifil - Imperfect Jussive - third person masculine singular, Preposition | second person masculine singular, Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Conjunctive imperfect - third person masculine singular | second person masculine singular, To bend, stoop in kindness to an inferior, to favor, bestow, to implore, The law of the Nazarite in the days of his separation, OT Law: Numbers 6:25 Yahweh make his face to shine (Nu Num. Handmade & Shipped in an est. Ministry ( these songs are focused on building us up songs that use the pronoun I usually fall here and songs that dont fall into the other three categories). We should all do our own due diligence to examine the theology of artists.. Maybe instead of finishing Church with gentle little pats on the back, such as indicated in 2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; . Having already gained some discernment, you can more easily divide right from false teaching[ And yet sometimes still get it wrong]. CCLI #: 7147007. I normally wont concentrate on lyrics when im listening to any other secular music. How a Christian applies his mind is of crucial importance! I took this song as it was presented..at this particular phase of my life, God put His beautiful promises there (in form of song) for me to hear, hide in my heart and to ponder as needed. I often am forced to watch the same commercial 4x in a row on internet TV Some Christians have for the first time thank you for letting reply away how. I updated my review borrowing from Brennans wisdom i will paste a portion of Lord! 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